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Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

Last post 06-01-2012, 10:33 PM by RJ's. 14 replies.
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  •  03-22-2012, 5:17 AM 41531

    Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    My Chip dog is great at retrieving frisbees or tennis balls.  Well, I used to dove hunt before deer season and got to thinking why can't I teach him to retrieve doves?  My brother used to have a golden retriever who would retrieve everyone's birds to my brother!  He told me to get some dead doves and teach the dog with them.  He would tell his dog "dead bird" and Hawkeye would search and search to find dead or wounded birds.  I think Chip would pick it up pretty quick, don't know how soft mouthed he would be though!  He might get the middle and I get both ends.

    Any suggestions?

    thanks

    Kathy


    A tired dog is a GOOD dog.
  •  03-22-2012, 3:56 PM 41539 in reply to 41531

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    Water Dog and Gun Dog - Charles trained with Richard Wolters and has expanded, updated and improved Richards Wolters original methods.  Great methods and use of handler techniques.  I own the original book and Charles DVD

    Gun Dog

    http://www.amazon.com/Gun-Dog-dvd-Charles-Jurney/dp/B00007AXTC/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1332446273&sr=1-1

    Water Dog

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00007AXTA/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=0525247343&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0DZ118YE5EYC56W2R2ZG


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  •  03-22-2012, 10:19 PM 41542 in reply to 41539

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    Jessie retrieves doves very well and she has no retriever in her. Dove's are a little tricky because of the feathers and sticking in their mouth but I would be willing to bet that you take em out, let them see you drop one, get a good handle on recall and you will have a retrieving lacy without a doubt. Bet their already trained and you dont even know it...Wink  Make sure their use to the gun before taking them out though, that could ruin your day pretty quick.

     


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  •  05-15-2012, 4:57 PM 42261 in reply to 41531

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    It wasn't because I'm that great of a dog trainer, but my Lacy "got it" by the time he saw the 3rd dove go down.  I just let him go over and pick it up and then called him to me. 

    This was in the December Dove season this past year.  The only issue I had was getting him to turn loose of the doves but he did amazingly well for his first time.

    My freinds who have retreivers were very impressed with his performance.


    Ryan Campbell
    College Station, TX
  •  05-15-2012, 9:11 PM 42264 in reply to 41531

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    Kathy sounds like Chip is half way there. The books Cynthia suggested are great and will fine tune your dogs retrieving skills.

    If you wanted to start right away I would suggest a puppy size retrieving dummy for a Lacy. Clip the doves wings and attach one to the dummy with rubber bands or tape and play fetch.

     Next I would introduce frozen birds when Chip is retrieving those with regularity introduce gun fire .22 then throw the frozen bird. Lastly introduce fresh killed birds.

    This is one method used to help prevent hard mouth.  

    If the dog does not want to release the bird don't tug push the bird into the dogs mouth to induce the gag reflex.

     

  •  05-15-2012, 10:51 PM 42268 in reply to 42264

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    That is some great info on retrieving, I`ve never really tried that but get to have to pass along if someone ask me. Do you have any on how to get Rogue to retrieve my shoe when she takes off and hides it, that would be really handy Smile
    Jesse James
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  •  05-16-2012, 7:32 AM 42271 in reply to 42268

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    Harlee retrieves doves for me.  Even if they dont sit with you and watch the bird go down, you can walk them in from downwind and they will find em every time.

    This is a little known secret about lacy's. A lot of people have told me they wont retrieve; they dont say that after Harlee brings them a couple of birds lol.

    I shopped around before I I got Harlee from Jack Foreman for this very reason. Harlee's mom " Brooke" will do everything but take the shotgun away from you and go kill a limit of birds for you.

    I dont make her sit with me most of the time, so she doesn't always know where the bird goes down, but its easy enough to walk her over to where the bird went down and she'll find it. Thats good enough for me. I hate to shoot em down and then loose them.


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  •  05-16-2012, 9:15 AM 42272 in reply to 41531

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    My female, Star, brought me dove for Mother's day.   It was alive and we had a heck of a time catching it as it flew around the house dropping feathers everywhere.  We finally got it and released it.  


    "James & Jamie Ricks, the people Shotgun and LoneStar call home"
  •  05-16-2012, 11:28 AM 42273 in reply to 42272

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    Lonestar brings me live tree roaches.  He just likes to see a fat old lady River Dance. 
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    Pearland, Texas

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  •  05-16-2012, 4:12 PM 42286 in reply to 42268

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    jessejames:
    That is some great info on retrieving, I`ve never really tried that but get to have to pass along if someone ask me. Do you have any on how to get Rogue to retrieve my shoe when she takes off and hides it, that would be really handy Smile

    She likes your scent...

    Mine has a sock fetish she collects one sock from every member of the family and puts them in her basket where we keep her toys.

     

  •  05-20-2012, 11:30 AM 42324 in reply to 42286

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    mine do the same thing........you know you have a lacy when you find yourself walking around the backyard looking for your other sock!!!!!  Tongue Tied

    "James & Jamie Ricks, the people Shotgun and LoneStar call home"
  •  05-20-2012, 4:36 PM 42325 in reply to 42273

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    You can find the socks?   What about the shoes? 
    Brenda Sturman
    Alvin, TX
    blsturman@live.com 281-824-5133
  •  05-21-2012, 8:38 PM 42333 in reply to 42325

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    My Dad's coyote mix would steal shoes and bury them, then lay there and watch you search.  If you got too close to the buried treasure, she would run dig it up and dash away with it again.  She sure was a "trickster".

    I am going to have to work on Chip with gunfire.  I thought he was OK with it but then he suddenly decided he didn't like it.  But we can play frisbee in a thunderstorm.  Go figure!

    Kathy


    A tired dog is a GOOD dog.
  •  05-21-2012, 10:05 PM 42334 in reply to 42333

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    I took Amos to a turkey shoot and skeet shoot.  He was scared to death until I started playing fetch.  He quickly forgot all about the shotguns blasting away.  It really helped him through gun shyness.
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  •  06-01-2012, 10:33 PM 42409 in reply to 41531

    Re: Teaching a Lacy to retrieve doves

    My Dog Benelli the first time I went dove hunting started retrieving them.  The big thing with him though he had to be calm enough to pay attention to all the doves and know which one went down.  He really helped out on the crippled ones.  The best part is he didnt eat them.
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